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     & served by accessing the thought, work & written words of THOMAS PEKETTY

 

 

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MONDAY FEBRUARY 13, 2017  S

GUESTS:

                                      (Originally aired: 03-10-93)

                                               Presentation:

             "Binary Economics as a Potential Gateway

             to the Economic Liberation of Humanity and

        Thus the Whole of the Much Wider Biosphere"

The one hour program features segments of  

Conversations with some of the follow:

                                        

                                      

                             Louis O. Kelso (R.I.P.),

                             Founder: The Binary Economics Concept

          Co-Author: (With Mortimer Adler) "The Capitalist Manifesto"  (1958)

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                           Patricia Hetter Kelso,

                     Wife of & Co/Worker with Louis O. Kelso

Co-Author (With Louis Kelso) "Two Factor Theory - The Economics of Reality"

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                       Hon Russell Long (R.I.P),

   Friend & Supporter of Louis O. Kelso / Chairman of the U.S. Senate Finance  Committee when Enabling "Binary" Legislation Was Passed in the Congress

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                                                              Hon. William Simon (R.I.P.),

 Generally Conservative Secretary of the Treasury of the United States - Supporter in the Establishment of the Frame Work for a

"Binary" Economic Order for the Country and as an Appropriate Model for the Broader World

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                          Hon. Carolyn Maloney,

Invited Louis O. Kelso to address the New York City Council & Strongly

Voiced approval of the Binary Idea for NYC, the Country and the World

Currently a Member of the United States Congress

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                               Luis Granados,

                   Executive Director "The ESOP Association of America

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                      Stanley Aronowitz Ph.D,

       Noted  Academic / Sociologist Generally Left Wing Political Activist

         Co-Author: "The Jobless Future - Sci-Tech and the Dogma of Work"

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                              Bertrand Chatel,

 Chief of Applications United Nations Science/Economic Advisor - Referencing John Maynard Keynes 1930 Warning to his

Grandchildren of Looming Technologically Induced Massive Un-Employment  & Displacement of Labor in Their Adult Lives - That is NOW. 

Critic of: "The Labor Theory of Value"      

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                              Robert Ashford

      Professor of Law / Student / Colleague  of Louis O. Kelso

               Co-Author: "Binary Economics - The New Paradigm"

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                                   and others.

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The program can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the you tube link below:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5xB1_TL7SU - BINARY ECONOMICS PRESENTATION

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    TUESDAY FEBRUARY 14, 2017

     GUEST:

                                                   (Originally aired: (08-19-87)

                                     LOUIS O. KELSO                                         

                                                 RIP 

                                        http://kelsoinstitute.org/louiskels

            

             Discussing the Economic Prognostications of Ravi Batra

                               Lawyer / Economic Theorist

                              Author (With Mortimer Adler):

                                   

                          "The Capitalist Manifesto (1958)"

                                     Investment Banker

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    The program can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the you tube link below:

       Louis O. Kelso # 2- Air date: 08-19-87

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  • WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 15, 2017

     

     

    GUEST

                                                    (Originally aired: (08-19-87)

                                     LOUIS O. KELSO 

                                                  RIP

                                        http://kelsoinstitute.org/louiskelso/

     

            

                           Lawyer / Economic Theorist

                         Author (With Mortimer Adler):

                                   

                          "The Capitalist Manifesto (1958)"

                                     Investment Banker

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    The program can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the you tube link below:

       Louis O. Kelso # 2- Air date: 08-19-87

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    THURSDAY FEBRUARY 16, 2017

     

    GUESTS: 

     

                                                  (Originally aired: 02-20-84)

                                                LOUIS O. KELSO 

                                               RIP

                                        http://kelsoinstitute.org/louiskelso/

                           

      

                           Lawyer / Economic Theorist

                         Author (With Mortimer Adler):

                                   

                          "The Capitalist Manifesto (1958)"

                                     Investment Banker

                                                   &

                                         A.H. RASKIN   

                                                 RIP

                                http://rmc.library.cornell.edu/EAD/htmldocs/KCL06029.html

                                 

               Reporter & Columnist for over 40 Years -

          

                                  New York Times

                 A Leading Expert on Labor Policy Issues

                    http://kelsoinstitute.org/louiskelso/

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    The program can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the you tube link below:

      Louis O. Kelso & AH Raskin Air date : October 1983

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    FRIDAY FEBRUARY  17, 2016

     

    GUEST:

    (Originally Aired May-98)

     

    HAROLD CHANNER

    Producer / Host

    Public Access Cable Television Series

    "Conversations with Harold Channer"

    &

    Presenter:

    1998 New York University Talk Titled:

    "Public Access Cable Television Within a World Systems

    Pattern of Understanding - Drawling Upon the Contributions

    of R. Buckminster Fuller Louis O. Kelso and Others"

    To access graphics accompanying talk click below:

    TALK GRAPHICS

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    I reference a talk I was honored to give before the Membership & Friends of The Secular Humanist

    Society of New York. This was Their 3rd Annual "Freethought Brunch & Lecture Celebration" held

    at the Historic "Pete's Tavern" in Manhattan New York at NOON on Sunday October 16. 2011. Their

    very rich web site is: http://shsny.org
     


    Included is some information about myself & the some graphics I focused on during the talk.

    The latter involve what seem to me unique, possibly of great importance - yet largely overlooked -

    interpretations of major Humanitarians: R. Buckminster Fuller, Isaac Asimov, Lord John Maynard Keynes,

    and Louis O. Kelso among others whose contributions might be of critical importance & useful in

    addressing the incredibly stressful nature of the current National and World Situation. Link to the you

    tube version of the talk is immediately below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPkFIUZtwF0 - Link to talk before the Secular Humanist Society of NY 10-16-11

     

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    Also Including below is a Relevant External link (Courtesy of Roger Leisner of Radio Free Maine & Fellow

    Manhattan Neighborhood Network Producer Joe Friendly) featuring a 38 Minute Blood Curdling Highly

    Authoritative Assessment by the Sterling Patriotic American Intellectual DANIEL ELLSBERG of the

    Species Lethal - That IS ALL Homo Sapiens (& Much of Related Flora & Fauna) - Capability of the Modern

    Day Weapons of Mass Destruction!! This - a totally new Existential Reality since about the year 1970 -,

    is seemingly Based on Scientifically Settled Modeling, & Particularly UNsettling in a World seemingly

    “Run” by a Geopolitical Class Based on an Unsustainable Modeling Only Capable of Reifying Outdated

    and Inadequate – REALPOLITIK - Notions all but seemingly destined to Unleash the “Unthinkable”. This Rather

    than doing any outside the Envelope Thinking Much less Action Which are being encouraged by the

    “OCCUPY THE WORLD” movement.

     

    My Movie 5 mp4 Daniel Ellsberg - YouTube


    38 min

     

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    Buckminster Fuller

    Louis O. Kelso

    www.channer.tv

    www.youtube.com/haroldchanner

    hhc@nyc.rr.com

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    The program can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the you tube link below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcTfmo62PfI - HAROLD CHANNER

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    More about: HAROLD HUDSON CHANNER

    CONVERSATIONS WITH HAROLD HUDSON CHANNER

    ABOUT HAROLD CHANNER

    CURRENT ACTIVITY: TELEVISION PRODUCER & CONVERSATIONALIST

    Approximately 2,700 in depth Conversations have been videotaped and aired in the "Conversations with Harold Hudson

    Channer" public access cable television series which was initiated in 1973. Responsibilities have included all aspects of

    administration, including:

    • Preliminary research to identify potential guest(s)
    • Contact and invite potential guest(s) to participate
    • Intensive research after invitation has been accepted
    • In studio or location videotaping of conversation
    • Post production editing and graphics enhancement of program
    • Negotiate and assure televising of conversations programs
    • Maintain appropriate continuing correspondence with guest(s)

    Guests have included a wide variety of leading figures from the

    business, governmental, academic and intellectual communities.

    FORMER ACTIVITY: UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR OF GEOGRAPHY

    • New York State University, New Paltz, New York 1968-71
    • .
    • California State University, Long Beach, California 1967-68
    • Utah State University, Logan Utah, 1966-67
    • Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, 1965-66
    • Southern Illinois University, Edwardsville, Illinois 1963-64

    EDUCATION

    • Ph.D. (ABD) degree. Political and Economic Geography - Indiana University. Bloomington Indiana 1963
    • Master of Arts degree. Physical and Historical Geography - Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan - 1961
    • Bachelor of Arts degree. History and Geography, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan 1959

    HONORS: HAS BEEN LISTED IN THE FOLLOWING MARQUIS PUBLICATIONS:

    • Who's Who in America;
    • Who's Who in the World;
    • Who's Who in the East;
    • Who's Who in Entertainment
    • Who's Who in the Media and Communications
       

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    Some of those who have been guests of "Conversations"

     

    Dr. Buckminster Fuller Dr. John Kenneth Galbrath Dr. Edward Wolff

    Mr, Louis O. Kelso Mr. Jeff Gates Mr. Ed Asner

    Mr. William McGowan Dr. Cornel West Dr. Stanley Aronowitz

    Hon. Russell Long Baba Ram Dass Dr. Wally N'Dow

    Hon Caspar Weinberger Mr. William Winpinsinger Mr. Morton Bahr

    Hon MuAmmatr Al Gaddafi Dr. Santiago Astrain Dr. Benjamin Barber

    Hon Yasser Arafat Hon Elliot Richardson Dr. Mustfa Tolba

    Dr. Zbigniev Brzezinski Dr. Timothy Leary Mr. William Batten

    Dr. Joshua Lederberg Mr. Michael Harrington Mr. Floyd Abrams

    Dr. Robert Heilbroner Dr. Lewis Thomas Mr. Peter Peterson

    Dr. Gunnar Myrdal Dr. John Brademis Mr. William Baroody

    Hon. Kenneth Kaunda Mr. Yoshio Teresawa Mr. Robert Wussler

    Hon. Jerry Brown Hon. Gary Hart Mr. Jack Valenti

    Robert Ashford Lord Walter Perry Dr. John Lilly

    Dr. Wassily Leontief Mr. Harold Geneen Dr. Henry Geller

    Mr. Robert MacNeil Mr. Ralph Nader Ms. Kay Koplowitz

    Hon. William B. Simon Hon. Ramsey Clark Dr. Issac Asimov

    H.R.H. Mohammed Faisal Al Saud Mr. Vernon Bellecourt Mr. John McArthur

    Mr. Arthur Levitt Jr. Dr. Rollo May Mr. Praynay Gupte

    Ms. Marilyn Mach Vos Savant Dr. Marilyn Ferguson Mr. Hugh Price

    Dr. Norman Borlaug Mr. William Greider Ms. Barbara Crossette

    Mr. Richard Branson Dr. Rollo May Dr. Marc Uri Porat

    Dr. Kirkpatrick Sale Mr. Benjamin Hooks Mr. A.H. Raski

    Mr. Sanford Weil Ms. Jane Roberts Dr. Eli Noam

    Hon. William Proxmire Dr. Corliss Lamont Dr. Herbert Schiller

    Mr. Raleigh Warner Jr. Hon Negendra Singh Ms. Yue-Sei Kan

    Mr. Richard Wiley Dr. Ravi Batra Dr. Oliver Sacks

    Mr. Henry Wallich Dr. Gerard O'Neill Mr. Gerard Levin

    Hon. Richard E. Wiley Dr. Michio Kaku Mr. Richard Salent

    Mr. Brian Lamb Admiral Gene Larocque Dr. Larry Gell

    Hon Andrew Young Mr. Ray Kurzweil Mr. Pete Seeger

    Hon. Hubert Humphrey Hon. Carolyn Malony Mr. Richie Havens

    Hon Jacob Javits Hon. Jerrold Nadler Dr. Paul Moller

    Hon. William Seidman Hon George Romney Mr. George Franklin

    Mr. Donald Kendall Mr. Abbie Hoffman Mr. Charles Heck

    Mr. Armand Hammer Dr. B.F. Skinner Mr. Glenn Watts

    Dr. Jay Forrester Mr. Jeremey Rifkin Mr. Peter Marshall

    Dr. Jonathan Kozel Mr. Kume Ture Hon. NizarHamdoon

    Mr. William Borroughs Right Rev. Paul Moore Jr. Mr. Henry Winston

    Hon. Frank Church Sri Swami Satchidananda Mr. Gil Noble

    Dr. David D. Korten Mr. Vance Packard Hon. Ahman Kamal

    Mr. Danny Schechter Mr. Herman Khan Mr. Stewart Mott

    Mr. Gerard Piel Dr. Paul Kennedy H.E. Ali Treki

    Mr. Stewart Brand Mr. Norman Kurland Mr. Kevin Phillips

    Dr. Guyford Stever Hon. Barry Goldwater Rabbi Israel Domb

    Dr. Leon Cooper Dr. Barbara Erenreich Mr. David Finn

    Mr. Rodney Shakespeare Ms. Patricia Hetter Kelso Dr. Robert Mundell

    Dr. Robert McChesney Mr. George Stoney Mr. Frank Zarb

    Ms. Nadine Strossen Ms. Judith Malina Beck Mr. Hedrick Smith

    Mr. Ethan DeAntonio Dr. Ethen Nadelman Mr. Paul J. Rizzo

    Hon. Lloyd Bentsen Mr. Tadahiro Sekemoto Robert Thurman

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    INDEX GUEST LISTING BY NAME 01-01-73 TO 07-31-10

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    Slightly Updated & Selected Summary Graphics

    FROM AN ORIGINAL PRESENTATION TO

    CLASS OF DR. ROBERT DANNIN

    "CRISIS OF THE MODERN AMERICAN CITY'

    AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY

    THURSDAY APRIL 30, 1998

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    One Individuals Idea About

     

    PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION WITH

    WORLD SYSTEMS PATTERN OF UNDERSTANDING

    Link (immediately below) to You Tube Version of Presentation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcTfmo62PfI&feature=channel_page

    NYU Talk 04-30-98 “Public Access TV – A World Systems View”

     

    Drawing Upon the Contributions Of:

    R. Buckminster Fuller / Louis O. Kelso

    And Others

    This is very much an evolving work in progress

    HAROLD H. CHANNER

     

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    PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION WITHIN A WORLD SYSTEMS PATTERN OF UNDERSTANDING

    PUBIC ACCESS PRODUCTION / DISTRIBUTION FREE TO PRODUCER

    OPEN TO ALL FOR NON MONETARY BASED COMMUNICATION

    EARLY EXAMPLE & AKIN TO NON COMMERCIAL USES OF INTERNET

    MODEL FOR OTHER NON COMMERCIAL BASED VENUES FOR EMERGING

    COMFORTABLY LEISURED EXPRESSION OF THE FREE HUMAN SPIRIT

     

    * IN TERMS OF ITS COLLECTIVE CAPABILITY MANKIND, AFTER 200,000 YEARS OF

    CULTURAL & TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT, HAS TRANSCENDED MATERIAL SCARCITY -

    “A NEW REAL CAPABILITY” TO PROVIDE "LIFE SUPPORT" (WITHIN AN ECOLOGICALLY

    APPROPRIATE PATTERN) FOR ALL WORLD CITIZENS. IN TERMS OF CAPABILITY NOW MORE

    “HAVES” THAN “HAVE NOTS”.

     

    * MOST IMPORTANT MILESTONE, OF THIS OR ANY OTHER, CENTURY. OBVIOUSLY THE

    TRANSITION IS IN OUR COLLECTIVE “DESIGN CAPABILITY” NOT THE ACTUAL MANIFESTLY

    INADEQUATE “REALITY” INHERITED FROM HISTORY. NEW POST SCARCITY “REALITY

    CAPACITY” HAS ONLY APPLIED SINCE THE YEAR 1970 – AGAINST ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY.

     

    1. R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER 2. MARSHAL MCLUHAN

    3. TEILHARD DE CHARDIN 4. RAY KURZWEIL

    5. LOUIS 0. KELSO 6. MU-AMMAR AL GADDAFI

     

    * INVOLVES TECHNOLOGICAL DISPLACEMENT OF LABOR IN PRODUCTION. PURPOSE OF THE

    INDUSTRIAL (AND POST INDUSTRIAL) REVOLUTION WAS - AND IS - TO PUT PEOPLE OUT

    OF WORK OR JOBS. DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME BY LABOR IS ALMOST UNIVERSAL BUT

    OUTDATED IN ECONOMY WHERE THE MAJOR AND INCREASING SOURCE OF PRODUCTION

    IS CAPITAL WHICH IS ALL OWNED BY A MINISCULE (PLUTOCRATIC) FEW. AN UNVOICED

    PARADIGM CLASH.

     

    * TECHNOLOGICAL DISPLACEMENT OF LABOR REQUIRES A NEW ECONOMIC SYSTEM

    IN KEEPING WITH NEW REALITIES OF CAPITAL PRODUCTIVENESS RATHER THAN LABOR

    PRODUCTIVITY. OWNERSHIP MUST BE DISPERSED. AN UNVOICED CRUCIAL PARADIGM

    CLASH.

     

    1. CHARLES HANDY (JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES)

    2. LOUIS 0. KELSO / BINARY ECONOMICS

     

    * ALL ACCEPTED ECONOMIC SYSTEMS (EXCEPT BINARY ECONOMICS?) ARE AND

    HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED ON VARIOUS INTERPRETATIONS OF "THE LABOR THEORY

    OF VALUE” WHICH SEES LABOR AS THE PRIMARY OR ONLY LEGITIMATE SOURCE OF

    INPUT TO PRODUCTION. ALL SYSTEMS ASSUME THE SUPREME IMPORTANCE OF

    LABOR AND DISTRIBUTE MOST INCOME BY LABOR CRITERIA (JOBS). BINARY

    ECONOMICS ASSUMES TWO FACTORS OF PRODUCTION - LABOR AND CAPITAL AND

    PROPOSES DEMOCRATIZATION OF CAPITAL OWNERSHIP AS A PRIMARY COMPONENT

    OF BOTH CAPITAL FORMATION AND INCOME DISTRIBUTION – UNVOICED.

     

    UNIVERSALLY DISPERSED CAPITAL OWNERSHIP WILL: INCREASE ABILITY OF

    ALL TO PURCHASE WHAT CAPITAL INTENSIVE AUTOMATED SYSTEMS ARE CAPABLE

    OF PRODUCING - EXPAND MARKET DEMAND; INCREASE CAPITAL AVAILABLE FOR

    INVESTMENT IN ECOLOGICAL "COSTS"; ATTACK CAUSES OF POVERTY (LACK OF

    CAPITAL OWNERSHIP) RATHER THAN IT'S SYMPTOMS; STEADILY INCREASE THE

    NUMBERS OF THE COMFORTABLY LEISURED AND THUS REQUIRE MANY NON

    ECONOMIC VENUES FOR THE EXPRESSION OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT SUCH AS: PUBLIC

    ACCESS TV, FAIR USE OPEN ACCESS BASED INTERNET, NON COMMERCIAL

    EDUCATIONAL/CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, OR WHATEVER ACTIVITIES A LIBERATED

    POPULATION WOULD WANT TO START – OUTSIDE THE DICTATES OF AN INCREASINGLY

    BYPASSED MARKET SYSTEM.

    BUCKMINSTER FULLER GRAPH FROM HIS “WORLD GAME” FINDINGS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE WORLD

    POPULATION WHO COULD BE SEEN TO BE “HAVES” IN THE MODERN EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF OUR ABSTRACT

    TECHNOLOGICALLY AUGMENTED "CAPABILITY" TO PROVIDE "LIFE SUPPORT" TO THE WORLD POPULATION.

    FURTHERMORE BOTH “GROWTH AND EQUITY” COULD BE REALIZED WITHIN AN ECOLOGICALLY APPROPRIATE

    MANNER THROUGH THE INCREASING ELEGANCE OF "GOOD DESIGN TEMPLATES” - “DOING MORE WITH LESS.”

    THINK MOORE’S LAW WRIT LARGE. HE PROJECTED FROM THE YEAR 1952 “A TWENTY YEAR PERIOD OF

    IMMINENT CRISIS TO ALL HUMAN INSTITUTIONS AS WE APPROACHED AND CROSSED THE 50% MARK”. HE

    LIVED OUT HIS LIFE IN THE BELIEF THE PROCESS HAD ACCELERATED AND THAT WE CROSSED THE 50 % MARK

    IN 1970. REMEMBER THIS IS “CAPABILITY” NOT ACTUAL “REALITY.” HHC

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    JAY BALDWIN

    Bucky Works: Buckminster Fuller’s Ideas for Today

    John Wiley & Sons Inc. 1996

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    Earthman’s Critical Moment

    “Think of It. We are blessed with technology that would be indescribable to our forefathers.

    We have the wherewithal, the know-it-all to feed everybody, clothe everybody, give every

    human on earth a chance. We know now what we could never have known before – that

    we now have an option for all humanity to “make it” successfully on this planet in this

    lifetime. Whether it will be Utopia or Oblivion will be a touch-and-go relay race right up

    to the final moment.”

    Buckminster Fuller, 1980

     

    Historically, according to Fuller, all theories of economics, all political ideologies have

    been founded on one basic tenet – the fundamental scarcity of life support. “It has to be

    either you or me, not enough for both.” Buckminster Fuller was the first to scientifically

    and incontrovertibly find that there is ample to support all humanity.

    We have never been in this position before, according to Fuller. 1970 marked

    a turning point in man’s technological evolution. The “invisible” metallurgical, chemical

    and electronic revolutions now makes it possible to do far more with ever less resources,

    energy, and time investments. ………………………………………………….

    JAY BALDWIN

    As inconvenient to the established Paradigm as “Post Scarcity Economics” would obviously be there have been a wide

    variety of projections of the concept. Below are some suggested links of the many attempts to assert the major premise.

    All obviously call for fundamental definitions of terms such as “What is the standard by which “have ness” is defined & of

    course the countless assertions defining “Human Nature” as inherently greedy with human desires unlimited and insatiable

    hence never able to be met” et al. But the time is ripe for new modeling and discussion and even argumentation based on

    a serious examination of the basic assumption itself. This rather than the seemingly wide spread default attitude of

    dismissing the concept as ipso facto absurd and/or naive thus routinely “overlooking” the possibility of what could well be

    the major “Paradigm Shift” in the History of Mankind. Political and business leaders would understandably have the most

    difficulty comprehending the assertion – representing the major beneficiaries of the historically inherited institutional entities

    and belief systems. Indeed in the end they might well represent what amounts to a Modern Day Ancien Regime. But

    intellectuals and the masses of world humanity need not be so restrained as the Increasing awareness of an unavoidable

    growing gap between the World’s “Post Scarcity” Capability and its Performance will inevitably create unacceptable Political

    instability beyond even that so evident today. HHC

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    Some Links: Post Scarcity Economics / Whole Systems:

    R. Buckminster Fuller World Transformation home page

    The Post-Scarcity Economics/Culture of Abundance Reading List v2.2

    JAMES LOVELOCK AND THE GAIA THEORY http://www.worldtrans.org/index.html

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    Link (Immediately below) to Google search: "Post Scarcity Economics" {About

    6,300,000 results (0.19 seconds)} A good beginning - to address the most fundamental

    Practical issue confronting the Evolution of Consciousness in our Universe Newly

    Now Possessed of Weapons Systems Capable of Eliminating the Homo Sapiens Species.

    (To access link below please copy and paste to address bar)

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&pq=post%20scarcity20economy&xhr=t&q=post+scarcity+economy&cp=22&pf=p&sclient=psy&rlz=1W1GZAZ_en&source=hp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=post+scarcity+economy+&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9973ef1cc063a705&biw=1066&bih=522

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    Once the new reality is taken into account (even ever mentioned as possible of consideration

    within our evolving "Synergetic Universe} by the so called established authorities (G-20 / G8 - G1?)

    defending the modern day "Ancien Regime" and its outdated intellectual. political, geopolitical, and

    economic assumptions and institutions reifying their Zero Sum Imperialistic Visionless Plutocratic

    gripe on Power and Influence, could begin to recognize Humanity's need - now available to us collectively

    after our 200.000 year long evolutionary sojourn on Earth - the basic assumption and modeling for what

    might be termed "An Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth." A couple of Links (there are hundreds of

    thousands found with an internet search - another good sign of hope) to the idea are immediately below:

    http://www.bfi.org/about-bucky/resources/books/operating-manual-spaceship-earth

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Manual_for_Spaceship_Earth .............

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    If there is any doubt concerning the Plutocratic Concentration of Wealth (and income) in the World and the United States of America you might want to contemplate the graph below:

    This is a blog about human rights – including political and economic human rights such as the right to participate in government (democracy

    being a subset of human rights) and the right not to suffer poverty – seen from the perspective of politics, art, philosophy (hence p.a.p.), law, economics and statistic

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    Louis O. Kelso and Patricia Hetter Kelso estimates of the relative real inputs to production in the

    American economy of Labor (Physical and Intellectual) and Capital over time assuming reasonably competitive

    markets. So ingrained is the “ethic” of the “Labor Theory of Value” that they thought it best to refer to Capital

    Owners as “Capital Workers” in keeping with their understanding that Capital instruments do “Work” - as surely

    as the most diligent human surrogate worker – and that indeed the observable trend is for Capital Instruments

    to do ever more of the Worlds “Work”. The reflexive prevalent attitude of equating “Economic” man with

    Essential Human Values including the whole vast array of values around the “Work Ethic” all contribute to

    camouflage and maintain the fundamental miss-match between the way goods and services are produced

    and distributed and particularly their trends projected into the future. Cybernetic contributions (now almost

    exponential) are only adding to the much longer Historical trend. Represents US Economy but applies to

    World trending. HHC

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    Chart of concentration of capital ownership in the U.S. over time. The same general pattern applies to

    virtually all economies of and the World Economy as a whole – Plutocratic ownership and control of the

    real means of production. With “The Labor Theory of Value” it only worsens. HHC -

    Quotes @ www.kelsoinstitute.org

    "Conventional wisdom says there is only one way to earn a living, and that's to work. Conventional wisdom effectively

    treats capital (land, structures, machines, and the like) as though it were a kind of holy water that, sprinkled on or about

    labor, makes it more productive. Thus, if you have a thousand people working in a factory and you increase the design

    and power of the machinery so that one hundred men can now do what a thousand did before, conventional wisdom

    says, 'Voila! The productivity of the labor has gone up 900 percent!' I say 'hogwash.' All you've done is wipe out 90

    percent of the jobs, and even the remaining ten percent are probably sitting around pushing buttons. What the

    economy needs is a way of legitimately getting capital ownership into the hands of the people who now don't have it."


    (Louis O. Kelso, Journal Asset Based Finance, 1982)

     

    "The trouble with today's techniques of finance is that they're designed to make the rich richer. None are designed

    to make the poor richer. That's why the poor are poor. Because they're not rich."


    (Louis O. Kelso, San Francisco Examiner & Chronicle, 1978)

     

    "The Roman arena was technically a level playing field. But on one side were the lions with all the weapons, and on

    the other the Christians with all the blood. That's not a level playing field. That's a slaughter. And so is putting people

    into the economy without equipping them with capital, while equipping a tiny handful of people with hundreds and

    thousands of times more than they can use."


    (Louis O. Kelso, Bill Moyers: A World of Ideas, 1990)

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    CHARLES HANDY

    The Hungry Spirit: Beyond Capitalism –

    A Quest for Purpose in the Modern World.

    Broadway Books N.Y., 1998 (pages 53-54)

     

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    Keynes, turning from economics to philosophy in his 1930 essay “Economic Possibilities for Our

    Grandchildren” foresaw it all:

     

    “We are being afflicted with a new disease of which some readers may not yet have

    heard the name, but of which they will hear a great deal of in the years to come-namely

    technological unemployment. This means unemployment due to our discovery of

    means of economizing the use of labor outrunning the pace at which we can find new

    uses of labor ….This means that the economic problem is not, if we look into the future,

    the permanent problem of the human race.”

     

    Keynes goes on to say that once the economic problem is solved, mankind will be deprived of its

    traditional purpose and will be faced with the real problem, which economics will have won: how to live

    wisely, agreeably and well. He doesn’t think that this will be welcomed by all.

     

    “There is no country and no people, I think, who can look forward to the age of

    abundance without dread” but ultimately “When the accumulation of wealth is no longer of

    high social importance, there will be a great changes in the code of morals … we shall

    be able to assess the money motive at its true value.”

     

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    Charles Handy citing the 1930 reference by Lord John Maynard Keynes projecting “Technological Unemployment” for the

    future world of his grandchildren. That would be right about now as technological advancement not only provides the

    possible means for Humanity’s collective “Transcendence of Material Scarcity” but poses the problem to progressives

    and policy makers by their commitment (along with virtually all economic theorizing) to the “Labor Theory of Value”

    currently informing virtually all National Economies on Planet Earth & the International System as well. HHC

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    Humanity's Current "Fork in the Road"

     

    After 200,000 years of biological existence Humanity has arrived at a crucial juncture. On the one hand we possess

    weapons, which can obliterate the Species. On the other - an "Obverse Scenario" might well reveal an unprecedented

    capability for providing an ecologically sustainable and increasingly improved level of "Life Support" for all of

    Humanity. Two large ideas seem to have been "missed" by the World Intellectual Community, which are worthy of

    consideration in the quest for the Hearts and Minds and perhaps the very Survival of the People of the Planet:

     

    1. Humanity's technologically augmented productiveness has offered the Capability to provide "life support"

    to increasingly greater percentages of the World population through time. Serious investigation of the

    proposition could provide a measurement of Mankind's store of "Proven" Life Support in a manner

    similar to that used for assessing "Proven" Oil Reserves - a measurement of humanity's "Proven 'Life

    Support Capability.” Careful measurement would most likely demonstrate that in terms of our collective

    Capability, and within reasonable, if debatable, agreed to definitions of terms, there have been, for thirty

    years or so, more "Haves" than "Have Nots" ! This for the first time in all of human history.

    R. Buckminster Fuller, with his World Game assertions, attempted such a measurement and concluded

    humanity reached and crossed the 50% mark in the year 1970. This is about the same date we

    crossed the threshold of our "Proven" capability to obliterate the species. Intuition and pragmatic

    investigation have lead many, but not enough, to agree both with his monumental broad assertion and the

    date he came up with for the Transformation. If correct it has been realistically appropriate to say

    Humanity has existed in a "Post Scarcity" Ontological reality for 33 years. It is possible to assert that this

    change - if true - is one of the most important developments in the evolution of all Biological processes

    on this planet! Consideration of the many interrelated implications it presents is worthy of the highest

    priority on the agenda of Intellectual investigation and deserves a "front and center" place in the

    World's seriously concerned discussion, study and debate.

     

    (The best source of investigating the proposition remains the writings of Buckminster Fuller and particularly

    the findings of his World Game Inventory of World Resources which provides the single best "Systems

    Template" for factoring in developments since he authoritatively introduced the concept. Back of the envelope

    calculations including recent near exponentially increasing cybernetic contributions - strongly indicate positive

    trends to date.)

    GOOD SITE FOR INTRODUCTION TO R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER: WWW.BFI.ORG

     

    2. The increased productiveness of the World Economy and the "Transcendence of Scarcity" has not been

    able to adequately inform pragmatic political and economic thinking largely through the adherence to

    outmoded Economic Theory. The World Economic Model is not based on a workable understanding

    of the changed Ontological reality. It does not, or will not, address the questions involving both

    growth and equity required to allow real Systems efficiency in the time ahead. Currently all "accepted"

    economic theory (despite all protestations to the contrary) is predicated on various interpretations of the

    "Labor Theory of Value" which dictates that for the vast majority of the World population an individual's

    right to income is predicated on his or her labor (physical and intellectual) contribution to increased

    productivity. Virtually all non-labor aspects of production are owned by a relatively miniscule Plutocratic

    class at the very pinnacle of World Society - and their capital assets are increasingly responsible for

    actual production gains. There is no adequate provision for democratizing the access to capital

    credit for investment in assets which will pay for themselves out of their future earnings - to the citizenry

    of any individual Nation - or to the people of the World. Under current policy assumptions there is no

    way forward toward a workable World Economic Democracy. Given oncoming massive technological

    displacement of labor by capital assets (as Lord Keynes predicted for these very days) Economic Democracy

    must be a sine qua non goal of responsible systems analysis. Anemic, erratic growth rates and

    persistent economic underproduction will not allow Humanity to achieve sustainable levels much less

    realize it's "‘Proven’ Life Support Capability". Increasing awareness of an unavoidable growing gap

    between the World Economy's Capability and its Performance will inevitably create unacceptable Political

    instability beyond even that so evident today. The World Economic system currently in place must

    be seriously challenged by New Theoretical understanding and Economic policy assumptions.

     

    (The best initial source for effectively arriving at a "Systems" Challenge to the unworkable Economic Status

    Quo is the "Outside the Envelope" thinking developed by Louis O. Kelso and Mortimer Adler in their

    earlier writings including The Capitalist Manifesto and currently in the pattern presented in the Book by

    Robert Ashford and Rodney Shakespeare: "Binary Economics The New Paradigm".

    WEB SITE: WWW.KELSOINSTITUTE.ORG

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    A Consideration of the Financial Crisis of 2008 & 2009 - Which Continues Lacking a

    Meaningful Long Term Comprehensive Solution

    Sunday September 21, 2008

    Secretary of the Treasury Paulson has submitted a three page bill to congress aimed at addressing

    the current financial crisis. He and many of the country’s leaders strongly recommend quick

    passage to avoid a disastrous “Melt Down” of the National and World Economy. A “Once in a Hundred

    Years Event” in the words of Alan Greenspan – and many others. Its definitely “Paradigm Shifting

    Time” – BIG TIME – here on planet Earth and there are bound to be many variegated reactions to the

    Historical event.

    I suggest that World citizens follow the “Three Page” limitation accepted by Secretary Paulson and

    lay out their idea and context within a similar - “Three Page” - limit of the causes, implications and

    prognostications as to their thoughts on the matter – a sort of collective Brain Storming

    exercise in citizenship, participation and responsibility. It would seem fair that links could be

    included in the Three Page Formulas – but we certainly want to keep the dialogue pithy dare we say

    “poetic or artful economy of language” yes we dare so propose! - suitable to the so very

    apparently limited attention spans of the people at the other end of postings on the marvelous

    Internet which we obviously need to get any good word out - which might emerge out of the

    exercise – way out there. Communications is the name of the game & in the interest of that I am going

    to attempt to get it down to “Three Little Pages” to mimic the sentiment of the popular song

    “Three Little Words” in support of an understanding under the rubric of “Binary Economics” and

    suggest that all interested parties - from hard core Marxists to Friedmanites - might do likewise.

    But before I make the effort let’s consider the official language of the Paulson Proposal.

    Text of Paulson Plan SATURDAY September 20, 2008

    LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL FOR TREASURY AUTHORITY TO PURCHASE MORTGAGE-RELATED ASSETS

    Section 1. Short Title.

    This Act may be cited as ____________________.

    Sec. 2. Purchases of Mortgage-Related Assets.

    (a) Authority to Purchase.--The Secretary is authorized to purchase, and to make and fund commitments to purchase,

    on such terms and conditions as determined by the Secretary, mortgage-related assets from any financial institution

    having its headquarters in the United States.

    (b) Necessary Actions.--The Secretary is authorized to take such actions as the Secretary deems necessary to carry

    out the authorities in this Act, including, without limitation:

    (1) appointing such employees as may be required to carry out the authorities in this Act and defining their duties;

    (2) entering into contracts, including contracts for services authorized by section 3109 of title 5, United States Code,

    without regard to any other provision of law regarding public contracts;

    (3) designating financial institutions as financial agents of the Government, and they shall perform all such reasonable

    duties related to this Act as financial agents of the Government as may be required of them;

    (4) establishing vehicles that are authorized, subject to supervision by the Secretary, to purchase mortgage-related

    assets and issue obligations; and

    (5) issuing such regulations and other guidance as may be necessary or appropriate to define terms or carry out the

    authorities of this Act.

    Sec. 3. Considerations.

    In exercising the authorities granted in this Act, the Secretary shall take into consideration means for--

    (1) providing stability or preventing disruption to the financial markets or banking system; and

    (2) protecting the taxpayer.

    Sec. 4. Reports to Congress.

    Within three months of the first exercise of the authority granted in section 2(a), and semiannually thereafter, the

    Secretary shall report to the Committees on the Budget, Financial Services, and Ways and Means of the House of

    Representatives and the Committees on the Budget, Finance, and Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs of the Senate

    with respect to the authorities exercised under this Act and the considerations required by section 3.

    Sec. 5. Rights; Management; Sale of Mortgage-Related Assets.

    (a) Exercise of Rights.--The Secretary may, at any time, exercise any rights received in connection with mortgage-related

    assets purchased under this Act.

    (b) Management of Mortgage-Related Assets.--The Secretary shall have authority to manage mortgage-related assets

    purchased under this Act, including revenues and portfolio risks there from.

    (c) Sale of Mortgage-Related Assets.--The Secretary may, at any time, upon terms and conditions and at prices determined

    by the Secretary, sell, or enter into securities loans, repurchase transactions or other financial transactions in regard to,

    any mortgage-related asset purchased under this Act.

    (d) Application of Sunset to Mortgage-Related Assets.- -The authority of the Secretary to hold any mortgage- related asset

    purchased under this Act before the termination date in section 9, or to purchase or fund the purchase of a mortgage-related

    asset under a commitment entered into before the termination date in section 9, is not subject to the provisions of section 9.

    Sec. 6. Maximum Amount of Authorized Purchases.

    The Secretary's authority to purchase mortgage-related assets under this Act shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding

    at any one time

    Sec. 7. Funding.

    For the purpose of the authorities granted in this Act, and for the costs of administering those authorities, the Secretary may

    use the proceeds of the sale of any securities issued under chapter 31 of title 31, United States Code, and the purposes for

    which securities may be issued under chapter 31 of title 31, United States Code, are extended to include actions authorized

    by this Act, including the payment of administrative expenses. Any funds expended for actions authorized by this Act, including

    the payment of administrative expenses, shall be deemed appropriated at the time of such expenditure.

    Sec. 8. Review.

    Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion,

    and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.

    Sec. 9. Termination of Authority.

    The authorities under this Act, with the exception of authorities granted in sections 2(b)(5), 5 and 7, shall terminate two

    years from the date of enactment of this Act.

    Sec. 10. Increase in Statutory Limit on the Public Debt.

    Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection

    and inserting in lieu thereof $11,315,000,000,000.

    Sec. 11. Credit Reform.

    The costs of purchases of mortgage-related assets made under section 2(a) of this Act shall be determined as provided

    under the Federal Credit Reform Act of 1990, as applicable.

    Sec. 12. Definitions.

    For purposes of this section, the following definitions shall apply:

    (1) Mortgage-Related Assets.--The term mortgage- related assets means residential or commercial mortgages and any

    securities, obligations, or other instruments that are based on or related to such mortgages, that in each case was originated

    or issued on or before September 17, 2008.

    (2) Secretary.--The term Secretary means the Secretary of the Treasury.

    (3) United States.--The term United States means the States, territories, and possessions of the United States and the District

    of Columbia.

     

    There is lot of the “What” addressed in Secretary Paulson’s proposal. It would seem the United States Government is in the

    process of establishing (belatedly?) what might be seen as a “Re Insuring” role (putting the “Full Faith and Credit” of the

    United Stares Government) behind a seemingly inadequate Commercial Capital Credit Insurance Underwriters - that is an

    Insurance Industry against Business loss – despite all the inventive use of Swaps and Derivatives and related procedures

    by the banking Industry – to deal with the various levels of risk in the Economic order.

    Interestingly these were the two aspects of a General Theory Model proposed by Louis O. Kelso and Mortimer Adler in their

    1958 Book “The Capitalist Manifesto” – A precursor document in the foundation of the “Binary Economics” Paradigm.

    They referred to and suggested a new institution to be created to be named the “CAPTIAL DIFFUSION REINSURANCE

    CORPORATION (CDRC)”. They suggested this 50 years ago as essential to a ”Systems” approach - as part of an overall

    “Paradigm”. Unfortunately our leaders have not had the wit, wisdom or understanding (more about that later) to institute a

    “Binary” understanding of Economic reality - hence the current financial crisis.

    I would suggest that is what Secretary Paulson is in the beginning process of instituting and - further that the institutional

    arrangement which will emerge out of the current crisis - could not more appropriately be named than the “Capital

    Diffusion Reinsurance Corporation (CDRC)” right there next to the Federal Reserve Bank (FED) on the “General Theory”

    Chart below. Better late than never – but 50 years is a mighty long wait – and the battle is still not won and will be fought

    tooth and nail by untold backsliding tendencies. The CDRC perhaps is now coming into being – finally – under dint of sheer

    necessity – always a less than optimum circumstance – but encouraging none the less as it could/would perform the much

    needed “Backstop” function in the Economic Order that is presently needed - and even more significantly perhaps - which

    the future now not only requires but also - newly now - allows.

    Here is the General Theory Chart

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    But there is not much there in terms in Secretary Paulson’s Proposal as to the “Why” of it all. It would seem that might be a

    good place for us to begin – at a theoretical level of understanding? What do you think about it all? Does it matter – the

    Why of it all? Does the Why of it all have any bearing on the fierce burning immediacy of the present calls to immediate

    action - with such far reaching implications? Avoiding the ultimate questions whose answers are destined to be

    synergistically encompassed – shrouded even - within higher orders of mystery – including the modeling which could

    indicate humanity might well have transcended “Material Scarcity” within the same Yin and Yang recognition of Universe –

    from the modeling - that the technological weapons systems seem to indicate a “totally new” Existentially significant

    “Species Lethal” quality now. Both are now at the level of capability. But short of all that – in the more “realistic” –

    practical realm of “Economics” – it would seem a very important conclusion as to why the CRISIS is summed up by the

    general idea – “Mankind Has Not Made His Peace With The Machine” or in other words with the Technology. At a

    economic theoretical level we have been fixated on the “Labor Theory of Value” which informs or even essentially

    underpins virtually all Economic theory from Smith., Ricardo, Marx, Marshall, Keynes, Schumpeter, von Hayek, Mundell

    right up to & including Friedman, are all accepting of - built upon “accepted” Economics – all share the same myopia. The

    only exception would seem to be Louis O. Kelso – in a time of “Change” which will emerge.

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_theory_of_value

    The basic Policy Grounding Statement of the American Economy is “The Employment Act of 1946” - That

    will have change within the “Binary Model” which is now emerging. Good.

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Act_of_1946

     

    Louis O. Kelso and Patricia Hetter Kelso estimates of the relative real inputs to production in the American economy of Labor

    (Physical to production in the American economy of Labor (Physical and Intellectual) and Capital over time assuming reasonably

    competitive markets. So ingrained is the “ethic” of the “Labor Theory of Value” that they thought it best to refer to Capital

    Owners as “Capital Workers” in keeping with their understanding that Capital instruments do “Work” - as surely as the most

    diligent human surrogate worker – and that indeed the observable trend is for Capital Instruments to do ever more of the

    Worlds “Work”. The reflexive prevalent attitude of equating “Economic” man with Essential Human Values including the whole

    vast array of values around the “Work Ethic” all contribute to camouflage and maintain the fundamental miss-match between

    the way goods and services are produced and distributed and particularly their trends projected into the future. Cybernetic

    contributions (now almost exponential) are only adding to the much longer Historical trend. Represents the US Economy

    but applies to World trending. HHC

    Whether income to “The People” will finally or eventually be in keeping with the way goods and services are actually being produced

    will ultimately be politically decided. But we seem trending in the right direction. Once we get the “Facts” straight we may well

    be on our way toward freedom from “Wage Slavery” through “Similfinancing” – both supply and demand in tandem - moving

    toward the liberation of the Ecologically sound Human Spirit for concerns with the “Goods of Civilization” which the future

    requires AND newly now allows! The time is now – Finally - NOW - to get it right - subsuming not overthrowing

    History - the way the Future requires !?

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    Carbon 60 as the Base of Nanotechnology & Information Beginning? See Reuters piece below

    The latter -- also known as “buckyballs” – are C60 molecules discovered serendipitously by a team at Rice University, led by

    Dr. Richard Smalley in 1985 (below). Named after R. Buckminster Fuller, inventor of the geodesic dome (discussed in “the

    “fullerene’s” 60 carbon atoms (!) are arranged spherically, as 12 pentagons and 20 hexagons (below), in the most

    symmetrical molecular form known.

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    Reuters Last updated: 11:14 am May 21, 2009 Posted: 2:25 am May 21, 2009

    "Five-dimensional" discs with a capacity 10,000 times greater than current DVDs could be on the market within 10 years,

    researchers reported yesterday.

    A team from Swinburne University of Technology in Australia said in the journal Nature that by harnessing nanoparticles and

    a "polarization" dimension to existing technology, a disc's storage can be massively boosted to hold thousands of feature

    films or millions of songs.

    Researchers said the technique allowed them to store 1.6 terabytes of data on a disc with the potential

    to one day store up to 10 terabytes.

     

     

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